tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6698448.post3944056931338500338..comments2023-10-11T02:14:41.158-07:00Comments on An Introspective of an Arminian Christian: A Born Again Jesus: Does the Word-Faith Religion Understand The Grievous Error Of Their Ways? (reposted)A.M. Malletthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17354778419074793522noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6698448.post-80725388494287094272013-02-12T09:59:19.514-08:002013-02-12T09:59:19.514-08:00As a CARMite, you should have identified yourself....As a CARMite, you should have identified yourself. Nobody else would have made the Murray reference.<br />I did not take Dollar out of context. I listened to the man for a few months several years ago and I fully understood what he was stating. It was clearly blasphemous.<br />As for Wesley, it would be quite a stretch to tie him to the Word-Faith religion. I realize the WOF adherents are anxious to associate themselves with him and various Holiness movements however there seems to be a lack of references to make that connection. "Faith" itself is not sufficient. Even the Calvinists state the same things. What is needed is a greater understanding of the differences between Wesleyan or Arminian faith and how Word-Faith promoters such as Creflo Dollar and Kenneth Copelend understand and apply their doctrines of faith.A.M. Malletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354778419074793522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6698448.post-83298444073850629132013-02-11T17:46:06.092-08:002013-02-11T17:46:06.092-08:00believe you are being somewhat unjust in what you ...believe you are being somewhat unjust in what you state, perhaps taking some quotes, implying that is the whole of the teaching. Here is a quote from Creflo Dollar on righteousness.<br /><i> It is commonly thought that righteousness must be earned. Anything worth having must be worked for—right? Not so in the Kingdom of God. In fact, something so valuable and precious as righteousness is a free gift! Still religion would tell you that your position of righteousness is based upon your performance. If that were true, you would not need Jesus.<br /><br /><br /> Now we know you cannot earn a gift. It has to be received. Salvation is a gift, and one of its benefits, righteousness, is also received freely. Therefore, man cannot take credit for earning either of them.<br /> Some people may ask what is righteousness? Righteousness is being free from all sin. Because of the initial sin of Adam, everyone born into this physical world arrived as a sinner. However, the moment we make Jesus the Lord of our lives, we also immediately receive the gift of righteousness along with the grace of God, which is unearned favor. Romans 5:17 confirms it. “For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!” Like everything else in the Kingdom of God, you receive righteousness. It is granted in exchange for faith and is not the result of works.<br /></i><br />http://www.creflodollarministries.org/BibleStudy/Articles.aspx?id=437<br /><br />Wesley was a methodist, I believe the word Methodist, implys a method to salvation and santification, I believe the method would involve faith on our part, correct me if I am wrong on that.<br />I know Andrew Murray taught faith was a requirment concerning salvation and santification.<br />btw word faith has roots with the wesleyn Holiness roots.<br />blessings fc-wfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com